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	<title>Comments on: Why Sarah Scares Me</title>
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		<title>By: Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know.  Sean and I watched it, well Sean watched and I mostly listened because I get too mad and yell at the tv.  We didn't agree with Biden all the time, but we thought he answered the questions and depended on facts.  Of course I like Biden anyway for his work on domestic violence... Anyway we thought Biden mopped the floor with Palin, and then today so many people thought she did well.  Did they even watch the same thing we did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know.  Sean and I watched it, well Sean watched and I mostly listened because I get too mad and yell at the tv.  We didn&#8217;t agree with Biden all the time, but we thought he answered the questions and depended on facts.  Of course I like Biden anyway for his work on domestic violence&#8230; Anyway we thought Biden mopped the floor with Palin, and then today so many people thought she did well.  Did they even watch the same thing we did.</p>
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		<title>By: pattrice</title>
		<link>http://pattricejones.info/blog/archives/372#comment-4375</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post-debate, I don't have a shadow of hope in the ability of my fellow Americans to see through the shallowness of Sarah Palin's smile or know that her nods and winks patronize them. 

Debate highlights:

(1) Asked to name her "Achilles heel," Sarah Palin lists her accomplishments.

(2) Asked when changing facts or circumstances have ever led her to change her mind, Sarah Palin states proudly that she's never changed her mind in response to new information.

(3) Sarah Palin slips in a reference to expanded powers of the Vice President and then, when directly questioned, agrees that she shares Dick Cheney's viewpoint concerning the nature of the Vice Presidency.  Clearly shocked, Joe Biden tries to alert viewers to the dangerousness of what's just been said but cannot possibly do so without giving more background information that will fit in his allotted time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post-debate, I don&#8217;t have a shadow of hope in the ability of my fellow Americans to see through the shallowness of Sarah Palin&#8217;s smile or know that her nods and winks patronize them. </p>
<p>Debate highlights:</p>
<p>(1) Asked to name her &#8220;Achilles heel,&#8221; Sarah Palin lists her accomplishments.</p>
<p>(2) Asked when changing facts or circumstances have ever led her to change her mind, Sarah Palin states proudly that she&#8217;s never changed her mind in response to new information.</p>
<p>(3) Sarah Palin slips in a reference to expanded powers of the Vice President and then, when directly questioned, agrees that she shares Dick Cheney&#8217;s viewpoint concerning the nature of the Vice Presidency.  Clearly shocked, Joe Biden tries to alert viewers to the dangerousness of what&#8217;s just been said but cannot possibly do so without giving more background information that will fit in his allotted time.</p>
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		<title>By: kelly g.</title>
		<link>http://pattricejones.info/blog/archives/372#comment-4371</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 03:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;That night, she received an outraged telephone call from the student’s mother — a police officer, as it happened — chastising her for transgressing her son’s freedom of opinion.&lt;/i&gt;

This anecdote reminds me of a post I recently read on &lt;a href="http://bitchphd.blogspot.com/2008/10/teaching-and-preaching.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Bitch, Ph.D.&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;i&gt;In class discussion this semester, I have learned that 70% of my freshmen students think they have a civil right not to be offended. Muse on that for a bit; it's goddamned depressing.&lt;/i&gt;

'scuse me while I go have a good cry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>That night, she received an outraged telephone call from the student’s mother — a police officer, as it happened — chastising her for transgressing her son’s freedom of opinion.</i></p>
<p>This anecdote reminds me of a post I recently read on <a href="http://bitchphd.blogspot.com/2008/10/teaching-and-preaching.html" rel="nofollow">Bitch, Ph.D.</a>:</p>
<p><i>In class discussion this semester, I have learned that 70% of my freshmen students think they have a civil right not to be offended. Muse on that for a bit; it&#8217;s goddamned depressing.</i></p>
<p>&#8217;scuse me while I go have a good cry.</p>
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		<title>By: Neva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with you.  The people I've encountered who are now vehemently for McCain-Palin don't admit to loving ignorance, but they talk about her style and his "integrity."  They say they don't like Obama's "elitism"  (I don't agree with Obama on everything, but the only way a guy who grew up with a single mother and faced racism and financial hardship is elitist is if getting an education and valuing information is elitist)  Big sigh.  The people, and these are people I really actually wouldn't have expected this from, are depending on rumors -- that Obama said if there was a choice between helping the United States and helping "black people" he'd choose "black people" and also that Obama advocates putting a tax on bullets to the point that no honest people will be able to buy bullets... I'm dumbstruck and discouraged and I don't even know how to face it.  BTW, if anyone is wondering NEITHER of those thing has any remote basis in fact.  Not that I'm personally against taxing bullets, but it happens to not be true.

The story about the teacher and the difference between facts and opinion is scary.  

I've been a Nader supporter for years and I still thinks he makes a great deal of sense, in what he's been saying about the proposed bail out, but I'm definitely voting for the Democratic ticket, for many reasons, but not the least a fear of Palin as president.  Well, that's not a huge switch, I voted Kerry last time mainly over the war, though I didn't agree with everything he stood for.

Well, I'm about to have a stroke watching the debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with you.  The people I&#8217;ve encountered who are now vehemently for McCain-Palin don&#8217;t admit to loving ignorance, but they talk about her style and his &#8220;integrity.&#8221;  They say they don&#8217;t like Obama&#8217;s &#8220;elitism&#8221;  (I don&#8217;t agree with Obama on everything, but the only way a guy who grew up with a single mother and faced racism and financial hardship is elitist is if getting an education and valuing information is elitist)  Big sigh.  The people, and these are people I really actually wouldn&#8217;t have expected this from, are depending on rumors &#8212; that Obama said if there was a choice between helping the United States and helping &#8220;black people&#8221; he&#8217;d choose &#8220;black people&#8221; and also that Obama advocates putting a tax on bullets to the point that no honest people will be able to buy bullets&#8230; I&#8217;m dumbstruck and discouraged and I don&#8217;t even know how to face it.  BTW, if anyone is wondering NEITHER of those thing has any remote basis in fact.  Not that I&#8217;m personally against taxing bullets, but it happens to not be true.</p>
<p>The story about the teacher and the difference between facts and opinion is scary.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a Nader supporter for years and I still thinks he makes a great deal of sense, in what he&#8217;s been saying about the proposed bail out, but I&#8217;m definitely voting for the Democratic ticket, for many reasons, but not the least a fear of Palin as president.  Well, that&#8217;s not a huge switch, I voted Kerry last time mainly over the war, though I didn&#8217;t agree with everything he stood for.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m about to have a stroke watching the debate.</p>
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